2012-13 Budget Proposals so far…

Check out this spreadsheet we got from Nancy Jester’s website. It’s from the superintendent’s proposed budget package. (Click on it to see it better.)

In addition, we have uploaded this and all other files we have collected on the budget to our Audits/Budgets page under our FILES tab.  Please be sure to download this one:


This proposed budget appears to show the proposed cuts in more detail. As far as some of our bloggers can tell, Fernbank Science Center actually receives MORE money next year, the superintendents office and the board of education budgets both increased as well as the department of communications and the deputy superintendent of instruction’s office. However, the department of special education has been decimated and over 200 parapros will be cut from the classrooms.

The last few pages have lots of information on potential cuts and comparing class size maximums with other metro districts. Compare them. You will see that DeKalb now boasts far and away the most students per teacher.

Also, there are some cuts that simply must be replaced elsewhere and may not net the savings indicated. For example, they plan to eliminate the International Teacher program. These teachers generally teach math and science. Obviously we can’t cut math and science teachers (we hope) so this line item will have to be replaced with new teachers.

Unbelievably – there is a page called “Previously Unbudgeted Fixed Costs” for things like electricity and healthcare which total over $44 MILLION!

For more info, click on this link at the superintendent’s website.

This article in the Dunwoody “Patch” has a pretty clear explanation:
Jester Calls for No Tax Increase for DeKalb Schools

And here is a recent very clear article from the AJC on the topic by Ty Tagami:
DeKalb schools’ draft spending plan has $30 million in new taxes

The AJC article includes this quote, which emphasizes the deadline crunch:
“I cannot support a two mill increase,” said Paul Womack, who nonetheless voted with the majority in the 5-2 decision Tuesday afternoon. He wasn’t alone. The board had to adopt something prior to a public hearing Tuesday evening to comply with Georgia Department of Education rules. A final budget typically must be in place before the fiscal year starts July 1, and changes are likely.

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170 Responses to 2012-13 Budget Proposals so far…

  1. From DCSS PR Dept:

    DeKalb Schools Completes Central Office Reorganization
    May 22, 2012

    The DeKalb County School District on Tuesday announced results of a reorganization of the District’s Central Office, a process designed to drive personnel and resources to schools, align salaries and positions and streamline staff across divisions.

    Superintendent Dr. Cheryl Atkinson began the reorganization process in November 2011 after hearing concerns from staff, parents and members of the community regarding the District’s organizational structure, compensation and classification procedures and hiring and promotion practices.

    “We heard loud and clear that we needed to take a hard look at our Central Office and drive our resources to schools and classrooms,” Dr. Atkinson said.

    The reorganization will result in the elimination of 73 positions from Central Office, including administrators, secretaries and other staff, for a total cost savings of approximately $5.1 million. This is the first audit and reorganization of DeKalb Schools’ Central Office in more than 10 years.

    The reorganization addressed 3,197 positions that were formerly coded to and counted among Central Office personnel. These positions have been assigned and coded to the schools where they deliver services, eliminated or had their funding assigned to appropriate schools.

    These positions included, among other positions, Title funded teachers, Pre-K teachers, Montessori teachers, magnet school teachers, English for Speakers of Other Languages teachers, exceptional education teachers, paraprofessionals, lay coaches, interpreters, school security officers, psychologists, social workers, nurses, school crossing guards, bus monitors and bus drivers.

    The reorganization consolidated more than 380 job titles into 17 job classifications, each with an aligned salary structure that is uniform across departments and comparable with similar school districts.

    With the reorganization, DeKalb Schools’ Central Office will convert from 4,098 positions to 814 positions, in line with school districts with comparable student enrollment. Changes to Central Office will be in effect for the 2012-2013 school year.

    “This reorganization will right-size our Central Office, create a salary schedule that is fair, equitable and aligned to the market and make us more effective in providing support for our students and schools, which is what the Central Office is here to do,” Dr. Atkinson added.

  2. Disgusted in Dekalb says:

    Let me get this straight. Womack doesn’t support a tax increase but he voted for one?

  3. Womack knows nothing, as usual, but he was talking out of both sides of his mouth — as usual.

    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. (Attributed variously to Abraham Lincoln, Mark Twain, George Eliot, etc.)

  4. Miss Management says:

    Apparently, they HAD to pass a preliminary budget. They are WAAAAAY behind the 8 ball on the schedule. So now they go and hash it out to agree on a final one. Gene Walker has pushed for a tax increase for a loooong time so it’s a’comin’… brace yourselves.

  5. The Deal says:

    Apparently Dr. Atkinson doesn’t realize that those of us out here in the real world never considered paras, nurses, exceptional ed teachers, title teachers, pre-K teachers, and language teachers as central office. When we say central office, we’re not looking at spreadsheets or org charts. We mean school system employees who are not in a school building or do not interact face-to-face with students on a daily basis, and I don’t think it takes a genius to understand that.

    So, while I am glad she’s done some housekeeping with respect to her budget spreadsheets, the fact still stands that there are too many pencil-pushers sitting behind desks at Mountain Industrial Blvd., and her actions in this press release (cutting 73) really only touched the tip of the iceberg. That gets zero credit in my book.

    Does she have an explanation for why the auditors said we could lose 336 central office employees? They didn’t say “shift them around on a spreadsheet or org chart”, they said CUT.

  6. MsMerty says:

    Has the re-organization chart been released?
    Looks like major cuts to support programs, but increases for Charters.

  7. GuruLikeDrucker says:

    After a brief review of the proposed budget, it appears to me like the School board is project to receive a $3.04million budget increase, communications receives a $806k increase and the Superintendent gave her office a $376k increase, representing 41%, 81%, and 524% increase over the 2012 buget respectively,

    Total Increase of $12.5mm for charters… is this right? I remember that there were some allocation issues with previous budgets, but I thought that this actually reduced the amount allocated to these schools (as funds were to be allocated on a headcount basis). Any thoughts?

    Breakdown of the charter schools is provided below

    School 2012 2013
    ACADEMY OF TECH AND THE ENVIRONMENT 1,407,517 to 4,250,000
    DESTINY ACADEMY CHARTER SCHOOL 727,874 to 1,200,000
    PATH CHARTER SCHOOL 1,858,046 to 2,700,000
    LEADERSHIP PREPARATORY ACADEMY 1,171,186 to 2,400,000
    INTERNATIONAL CHARTER SCHOOL 2,664,781 to 3,700,000
    GATEWAY TO COLLEGE CHARTER 1,125,474 to 1,225,000

  8. Miss Management says:

    There are only about 100 kids at Destiny if it’s still the same as when we could get the FTE count from the state. At $1,200,000, that’s $12,000 per student! I”d like to be given $1.2 million to educate 100 kids – this would be plenty for a small private school!

  9. dekalbite2 says:

    Since Fernbank Science Center lost the forest, it is only a building. The six groundskeepers are gone. So you would think the money for FSC would come down – not go up.

    So why are taxpayers spending MORE for Fernbank Science Center?
    $4,438,798 in 2012 and Dr. Atkionson is increasing that to $4,464,757 2013 (JUST in compensation – no transportation cost, etc, included)

    Click to access proposed-budget-(2012-2013).pdf

    Why is this center with $430,000 spent on Designers to arrange the exhibits and as many admin and support as they have teachers getting additional funding while the science teachers who teach the same students day after day in the regular schools and are actually responsible for student achievement in science get 40 students to a science classroom? Does anyone think this is a good idea?

    Are parents comfortable with 40 to a science class and no equipment and supplies while Fernbank pays this for Designers to arrange the exhibits at the Fernbank Science Center?
    Designer $77,381
    Designer $63,360
    Designer $84,073
    Designer $65,827
    Designer $69,178
    Total: $359,819
    With benefits – $431,782 for 5 Fernbank Designers.

    Are taxpayers comfortable with a Cabinetmaker for Fernbank Science Center costing $47,000 a year ($56,400 with benefits) – on par with a science teacher with a Masters degree in Physics?

    How do you think science teachers with 40 kids to a class and the TOTAL responsibility for science achievement in DeKalb feel when they see these salaries?

    This is so TOTALLY out of line. We could hire 90 science teachers, each one with a Masters degree and 5 years of teaching experience (including benefits cost), for the $4,400,000 Dr. Atkinson proposes we spend on Fernbank Science Center.

    Parents need to decide if they want 40 to a science class or Fernbank Science Center. It’s really that simple.

    Look at the 2011 science scores for DeKalb:
    Science % FAILED by Grade Level
    3rd grade – 30.9%
    4th grade – 33.6%
    5th grade – 35.2%
    6th grade – 42.2%
    7th grade – 31.9%
    8th grade – 49.9%
    Almost half of our 8th graders do not know the most basic concepts in science.

  10. dekalbite2 says:

    Looking at our science scores, does it look like we need to pack 40 kids into science classes? This is wrong no matter how many open letters to the BOE the Fernbank Elementary School Council writes:

  11. How much is Destiny’s monthly or annual rent to New Birth Church? Also, what are their other operating expenses that are not covered by the lease with New Birth — i.e., utilities, repairs, maintenance, etc?

  12. justwatch says:

    There was consensus at today’s budget committee to shut down Fernbank. The suggestion was made to contact the big Fernbank about them leasing the building and utilizing the space. But there was not one board member who said it should be kept open.

  13. dekalbite2 says:

    So why does Dr. Atkinson’s budget have $4,464,757 in funding for Fernbank Science Center, an increase over last year?

  14. Tit For Tat says:

    Please tell me why Dekalb County pays rent to a church when we have vacant school buildings available…I have never understood this rationale….what am I missing?

  15. Super districts still exist says:

    The proposed cuts come from her proposed budget. Please look at the spreadsheet to see the list of cuts.

  16. A tax increase for the majority of the folks that got us into this mess in the first place? Really? Tyson got to go! Ramsey, Tucker, Moseley, Thompson, Berry(all the way out of DCSS), Mitchell-Mayfield, the Guilroys, all Francis Edward kids and kin, the Calloways, and the rest of the Clew Crew. When I hear wholesale changes are coming I’ll consider a tax increase. But I am not going to give these bozos another dime until I see some fiduciary responsibility and accountability! Come on Atkinson, 73 people.. really? You can slash more! Friends and Family MUST GO!

  17. Concerned Teacher says:

    What else was discussed today? Any other ideas of what may be cut?
    Thanks for the info. I wish they would tape ALL of the meetings and post them online in a timely manner- too much to ask??

  18. dekalbschoolwatch says:

    Actually, DCSS sold this elementary school to New Birth (for only $150,000!), who now leases it (we ‘think’) back to the school system for Destiny Academy.

  19. dekalbschoolwatch says:

    We think this whole Fernbank budget may be cut. It’s a big line item and easy pickin’ for the chopping block.

  20. Just a Mom says:

    Am I the only one who finds it ironic that at the bottom of the page with the proposed class sizes (around page 64 – 65) is the DCSD slogan “Victory in every classroom” ? It’s going to be a daily battle to keep 34 kids on track, and I am doubtful many victories will be won.

  21. concerned hs teacher says:

    How exactly is DCSD going to successfully roll out the Common Core and the new reading program with less instructional staff? How do you justify cutting 25 librarians whose main job is info Literacy especially when that will be a major component to the new curriculum? Students and many teachers do not know how to research correcttly. Librarians will help bridge that gap but not if there is a shortage and the ones left have to share schools. What about access to info within the library? That is provided by both the librarian and clerks and is definately needed by those without resources at home or cannot get to a public library. How much more can you cut from the schoolhouse and still expect a positive result?

  22. dekalbite2 says:

    Well – which is easier to cut – everyday science education in the regular schools where children learn the basic science concepts that every student MUST know or Fernbank Science Center which is a nice science enrichment program?

    Fernbank has way too many admin and support – half of the center personnel do not teach and they consume millions of tax dollars that could be used teachers.
    Fernbank uses an enrichment model of transporting kids for a once or twice a year science experience that worked in the 1950s and 60s cheap gas world where most of our students were middle class and had already mastered the basic science content for their grade level.

    There are some very good programs at Fernbank such as SEMAA and STT, but they are not dependent on the large amount of admin and support the center employs. Their success is dependent on the excellent science teachers at Fernbank. These programs could be run at a fraction of the current cost and available to many more students if they were placed in regular education schools throughout the county.

    Delivery of science education to ensure the most students have mastered the most science content must be the goal of DCSS. If most of your students do not know even the basic science concepts, then spending millions on an outdated science enrichment center is a luxury taxpayers and students cannot afford.

  23. Dekalb Dad says:

    So what exactly is the solution? Cutting central office is a popular suggestion, but that won’t come close to what is needed. Every school system is dealing with the crisis, we just are in a bit worse shape than our neighbors. I am an administrator in a nearby county, and I know cuts in even the most well-managed systems result in furlough days and increased class sizes. State and local funds are way down, so difficult decisions must be made…What are the best options?

  24. dekalbite2 says:

    “Cutting central office is a popular suggestion, but that won’t come close to what is needed”

    Just because cutting the Central Office won’t solve ALL of our financial woes, it should not be off limits. Cutting non teaching positions deeply is more desirable than cutting teaching positions deeply. Why? Because teachers instruct our children and are responsible for their achievement. Student achievement is the number one goal of the school system, and teachers are the most important factor in student achievement when considering all school system employees.

    Everything should be on the table – cutting, consolidating and outsourcing.

    Compensation of non teaching employees needs to be rightsized (have you taken a look at the MAG audit?), and our non teaching numbers in departments should be comparable to other demographically similar systems. Neither are happening now, and that is a source of many of our financial woes.

    Legal fees are outrageous as well. This “lawsuit to nowhere” needs to end. We cannot afford to gamble with our children’s future.

  25. Dekalb Dad says:

    I totally agree with you. Central office positions do need to be looked at carefully and cuts/adjustments need to be made. This clearly needs to be done. But then what? Where should the other cuts come from? Like you, I do not want another class size increase, but since personnel is the largest expenditure, there are large savings that result from this measure. But what are the other viable options?

  26. Frustrated Educator says:

    As a teacher I definately donot want furloughs but will take some if that means we don’t lose much needed staff and increase class sizes more than the previously proposed 2 per class. Students are already suffering due to increased class sizes were individualized attention and small groups are almost nonexistent due to class size and discipline issues. With more in a class things will only get worse. What happened to the they supposedly were to save by closing schools and thd elimination of positions such as parapros and clerks? If that act was done to save money what do you think will happen this go around if they cant manage the money? Why not close Fernbank, stop ordering new textbooks every year, cut back on security guards, close or consolidate the academies and charters and put them in the closed schools, and most of all cut the central office boost as suggested and not simply change titles and play music chairs.

  27. Educatedonthefacts says:

    So if this is correct we can cut the spending for small charter schools and save the Fernbank Science Center who serves all children in DeKalb County Schools.

  28. Educatedonthefacts says:

    What the undeducated person does not know about the science center is that they increased the student contacts to DeKalb students by 27% last year with fewer staff members. The reduction in staffing has required staff to travel to schools more and get more creative in reaching the students in DeKalb. Your facts are correct on the Failed by grade level but how do they compare to the other districts????? What do you think you will gain by taking something that serves all of Dekalb students and put them into schools where they will only serve less than 1,000 kids….a miracle that will dramatically change the failing percentage????? I think not. You only loose a part of DeKalb history that can never be reclaimed and staff that serves all 100,000 students in DeKalb.

  29. Educatedonthefacts says:

    You are wrong in your assumptions and it proves that you have not investigated the facts before speaking. The Science center has in recent years spent more time taking programs to schools where kids are at. They have also met the students at local high school auditoriums where it, reduces the need for buses by getting closer to the schools while increasing the student knowledge. This is not a luxury but a necessity. If you ask any teacher who has experienced a program in their room or at a local Auditorium you can understand why this is so important not to loose.

  30. Educatedonthefacts says:

    Most of our budget problems could be solved by not funding charter schools. My understanding is that charter schools were to attain their own funding anyway. Why should the school system fund these? Eliminating this funding would allow to save increasing class size and closing the Fernbank.Science Center.

  31. The BOE can save themselves some time. All Fernbank Museum has to do is sit tight and wait for DCSS to do nothing — which is almost assured. Fernbank Museum can have the building for free. How do you think Fernbank Museum got Fernbank Forest?

    Take a look this excerpt from the Fernbank Science Center Warranty Deed:

    From the Warranty Deed, August 16, 1966, between Fernbank,INC. selling four acres of land (Land Lot 244) to Dekalb Board of Education:

    “This Deed is executed upon the condition that in the event the above described property is not used for a science center or cultural center, the above described property shall revert to the Grantor herein, its successors or assigns in as full and complete a manner as if this deed had never been executed.”

  32. science teacher says:

    What the board is proposing is eliminating Fernbank Science Center and using the savings to offset the deficit. None of the money saved will ever see the inside of a classroom or science lab. It won’t buy an army of science teachers or reduce class size. And the idea of leasing the building back to Fernbank Museum is naive. If the Science Center is eliminated the building, planetarium, observatory and grounds all revert back to Fernbank Inc- the Museum will get it for free. Our kids will be able to visit, but not without an entrance fee.

    Do you really think there is time to relocate SEMAA, STT or Advanced Studies into the schools by August? Do you really think there is any science leadership in the county that will redirect Fernbank Science Centers resources and programming back into the schools? Let’s be honest about what closing Fernbank Science Center means to our students- it will help reduce the deficit, but in no way will this help science instruction.

  33. Concerned Teacher says:

    “My understanding is that charter schools were to attain their own funding anyway.”

    I don’t think that is true. Once a charter is approved by the BOE (or the now defunct state charter school board) the district is on the hook to provide public funds to the school (both state and local dollars). I’m not sure exactly how the funding is calculated but I believe if a district spends $10,000 per pupil then the charter school would get $10,000 for each of their students.
    At this point all of the charters have been approved for next year, so it’s too late to change anything. Also, after the referendum in November I imagine we will have many more charter schools to compete with the failing DeKalb schools.

  34. Teachingmom says:

    Does anyone have info on where the Special Ed cuts are coming from? Is it the LTSEs or teachers?

  35. dekalbite2 says:

    I. Fernbank costs around $6,000,000 to $7,000,000 to operate – around $5,000,000 in salary and benefits, plus transportation of thousands of students to and from the center for a one time science experience, etc.

    II. Coaches, Parent Center personnel, Coordinators, and Special Education Lead Teachers – none of which has been tied to student performance or have shown a relationship to increased student achievement for DCSS:
    A. Coaches – Instructional, Instructional Change, Graduation, Literacy, Math, etc. are all certified personnel who could teach but do not teach. There are 190 of them (called Instructional Specialists on the state Salary and Travel audit), and they consume around $15,000,000 in Salary and Benefits. DCSS is only obligated to spend around $4,000,000 on Instructional Coaches per Title 1 guidelines. We are not required to have all of those other coaches.
    B. Parent Centers – We have around 80 Parent Center personnel and spend around $4,500,000 in salary and benefits for them. No other school systems spends this. We are only obligated under Title 1 guidelines to spend 1% of Title 1 funds on parent involvement which equates to around $400,000.
    C. Coordinators – We have around 60 coordinators which make around $100,000 per employee in salary and benefits for a total of $5,600,000. DCSS used to have less than 20 coordinators. Programs and services were consolidated and good clerical support allowed them to wear several hats.
    D. Special Education Lead Teachers -There are 90+ DeKalb Special Ed Lead Teachers, Coaches (not to be confused with the above named coaches) and Coordinators (not to be confused with the above named coordinators. They are termed Special Education Specialists on the Salary and Travel audit. They serve 130+ schools and cost $8,000,000+ a year in salary and benefits. They are in charge of paperwork for the special education program and never teach a single child. By contrast, Gwinnett Schools has 20+ Special Education Specialists serving 130+ schools costing them around $1,700,000. DeKalb has 7,500+ Special Education students while Gwinnett has 16,000+ Special Education students.

    III. Security – DCSS spends almost $11,000,000 for around 200 Security personnel – including every demographically comparable school system. Look at the figures for DeKalb Security.

    IV. Outsourcing
    It is time to look at PARTIAL outsourcing in many areas – food services, custodial, grounds maintenance, security, etc.

    V. Maintenance: DCSS with 95,000 students spends around $13,000,000 a year for maintenance while Gwinnett spends around $9,600,000 (and Gwinnett also has more schools)

    VI. Further consolidation of schools – Last time we saved around $4,000,000 by consolidating schools. We could save additional dollars by more consolidations.

    VII. Pre-K – DCSS is the only system left that runs our Pre-K program in the schools. The other counties let the daycares run their programs with good results for their students. The state will pay the full amount if it is run in the daycares. We pay TIWCE as much to run our Pre-K for the same number of students as Pre-K would be in daycares. Pre-K in daycares has the same teacher certification requirements (teacher certified in early childhood) and the same curriculum.

    VIII. Counselors and Assistant Principals – DeKalb is overstaffed and/or pays over the school day in hours for counselors and assistant principals. 270+ Assistant Principals cost $25,000,000 in salary and benefits and 320+ Counselors cost $25,000,000 in salary and benefits. This is a total of $50,000,000 for 590 Counselors and Assistant Principals. Counselor hours need to be reduced from 9 to 8 and position numbers need to align with other school systems. If need be counselors in very small elementary schools can share a counselor. Assistant Principal numbers can also be aligned with the marketplace numbers.

    IX. Legal fees
    DCSS is spending $13,000,000 a year in legal fees, most of this in this on the Heery Mitchell suit with no end in sight. Soon we will owe lawyers any money we MIGHT (and this is a gamble) make. We paid King and Spalding around $5,000,000 last year and Sutherland, Asbill and Brennan around $7,000,000 and Josie Alexander over $1,000,000. In addition, we have an in house legal group now.

    X. Scripted Learning programs
    DCSS spent $6,000,000 last year on America’s Choice, a scripted learning program that has not only shown no efficacy for DCSS students, in fact the low income schools it serves are behind the rates of achievement for every other metro school system. DCSS has been purchasing this program for six years with no ROI. Now Dr. Atkinson wants another scripted learning program called Success for All to replace America’s Choice. Will it also cost millions?

    XI. Magnet programs should be housed in existing schools so there is little duplication of admin and support and should cost no more than regular education students. Parents should provide all transportation.

    These are but a FEW examples. There are many more that would not impact our teachers in the classroom. When you balance the budget on the backs of the teachers, you balance it on the backs of the students.

  36. dekalbite2 says:

    @Educated on the Facts
    “They have also met the students at local high school auditoriums where it, reduces the need for buses by getting closer to the schools while increasing the student knowledge.”
    If the teachers are going to the schools,why have the number of admin and support at Fernbank Science not been reduced? There are as many admin and support as there are teachers?

    Do we want science classes of 40 or Fernbank Science Center. Millions a year must be taken from the budget for the science center. Science achievement is dismal. It will become more so with 40 to a class?

    Fernbank Science Center needs to become a non profit or be closed. SEMAA and STT can be run in select schools throughout the county at a fraction of the overhead they are currently incurring and reach far more students.

  37. Frustrated Educator says:

    Good ideas! Some clarifications…counselors have taken a cut in pay and hours. They were notified of the cuts just before contracts went out. Pre-k hasnt been eliminated in all systems. I now live in Newton where it is working pretty well. Also with outsourcing, it is important that DSCD demand those workers have thorough background checks or else another can of worms will be opened.

  38. dekalbite2 says:

    @science teacher
    “it will help reduce the deficit, but in no way will this help science instruction.”

    Reducing the deficit without increasing class sizes including science to 40 will help science instruction. It is simply not possible to run safe labs with the number of students that DCSS is proposing for the classrooms.

  39. justwatch says:

    SEMAA ends this school year– it is gone. Funding ends for it. (NASA had been funding it.)

    My child’s fifth grade field trip was cancelled by Fernbank twice and never happened. Last year, the Fernbank educator who came to do an in-school field trip was unimpressive and the kids were bored.

    The Forest is gone.

    Five years ago, there was a committee that spent nearly a school year studying Fernbank and looking for possible efficiencies.

    Next year, the very real potential of a three child per class increase is looming. We can’t afford the basics, how do we justify luxuries. (That no other system has by the way.)

  40. murphey says:

    @ science teacher at 9:39 – you make the EXCELLENT point that $$ saved from closing Fernbank Science Center will not go back to the schools for science instruction or enrichment. The $$ will just go into plugging the deficit.

    Closing Fernbank eliminates ANY enrichment for science. Maybe the museum part of Fernbank needs to be scaled back, to reduce the number of highly paid exhibit designers or non-teaching personnel. Closing Fernbank will probably result in fewer science teachers in DCSD, which is what we do NOT need.

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