BREAKING NEWS! Single School Accreditation Opportunity

from Terry Nall
Dunwoody City Council Post 4 (District 1 At Large)

“Below is a link to an initiative underway in Dunwoody seeking permission from Supt Thurmond for our high school to pursue a single school accreditation as a dual accreditation alongside SACS district accreditation.

“If other high school communities have talked about requesting the same permission, now is the time to contact the Supt for that permission. For instance, I’ve heard indirectly that Lakeside High School is also interested in this strategy. I would expect other high school councils to be interested in this.

“My request was not just for Dunwoody High School, but was for any high school in DeKalb with a school council interested in a back-up accreditation. This back-up, single school accreditation is to protect our students for college admission purposes in the event of the unthinkable loss of SACS district-wide accreditation due to uncontrollable events, such as court rulings about the law permitting the Governor to remove school boards under certain conditions.

“If Supt Thurmond provides his blanket approval, I’ve agreed to network with any DeKalb high school council that needs assistance with how to organize the dual accreditation process.”

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11 Responses to BREAKING NEWS! Single School Accreditation Opportunity

  1. A Cho says:

    I’m hoping that DCSS hasn’t put our schools in an unfavorable position to jeopardize another accreditation…too many students in a classroom?

  2. Embarrassed Employee says:

    I don’t think he will approve it because to the public it sound like if I fail here’s my backup plan. His stance has always been the county will not lose its accreditation.

  3. Crawford’s trial is supposed to begin a week from next Monday. What’s the line on it not happening? Wanna do a Dekalb School Watch pool? Anybody wanna bet? (This is a tongue-in-cheek a waiver: I’m sure Dekalb School Watch does not want to get involved in on-line gambling.)

  4. Actually, Thurmond’s “permission” is not really needed. We think it is more of a “courtesy” by Terry Nall. The Georgia Accrediting Commission is a state agency. They are not paying their Executive Director the big bucks like AdvancED/SACS does with Elgart so he can send his child to private school and live in a $475,000+ house (per the Fulton County Tax Commissioner; 4160 Park Brooke Drive, Alpharetta, GA 30022; Google Street View).

    GAC accreditation costs are so affordable (unlike AdvancED/SACS) they could be paid by the PTA for on a single school. Many schools in Georgia have dual accreditation. Go to the Georgia Accrediting Commission for a complete list of who they accredit. That same information is not publicly available anywhere on the AdvancED/SACS website.

    GAC is located at the College of Education at the University of Georgia. Take a look at the GAC Standards and you will see that they have a much more direct impact on student educational achievement than does the “It’s a process” BS from AdvancED/SACS — as if our children had all the time in the world to wait on a “process” to work or be tweaked.

    You will also find that Dr. Carvin Brown, Executive Director of GAC, does not have the Napoleon Complex displayed by Elgart.

  5. A DSW pool on the trial! Great idea! Will it happen or won’t it? …. I think I’d bet on it happening — the payout would be far greater…

    On another note:


    The DeKalb Board of Education will hold a called meeting at 6:00pm,
    Wednesday, April 3, 2013
    , in the J. David Williamson Board Room in the
    Robert R. Freeman Administrative Center at the DeKalb County School
    System’s Administrative & Instructional Complex, 1701 Mountain Industrial
    Boulevard, Stone Mountain.

    Meeting information can be accessed online by going to:, click on Leadership, go to eBoard Home Page and click on the date for the meeting agenda\information.


    Dr. Melvin Johnson, Chair
    DeKalb Board of Education

  6. Vandy Grad says:

    Looks like Thurmond will have to give permission for the school employees to participate with GAC to conduct the accreditation. Technically the school system will incur a cost since the employees will have to do this on school time, not personal time.

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  8. This is just a guess … but, given the way a lot of teachers feel about their treatment at the hands of DCSS, we bet there are teachers who would be happy to cooperate with GAC on their own time to ensure that their school has real accreditation that actually affects student academic achievement.

  9. dekalbite2 says:

    DeKalb may have the class sizes set too high for accreditation by the Georgia Accrediting Commission. SACS is very lax compared to this agency.

  10. Yes, you are correct, dekalbite2. DeKalb’s class sizes are too large for the Georgia Accreditation Commission (GAC).

    Do our readers see what we mean when we say that many, if not all, of GAC’s standards directly affect the classroom and student academic achievement? GAC has mostly objective, measureable standards. AdvancED/SACS has a vague, subjective “process.”

    However, one of our editorial staff (who is currently buried under a deadline for a paying job) has an email from Dr. Carvin Brown, Executive Director for GAC, saying they understand the issues in DCSS and are willing to cut some slack on class size for a couple of years to allow those schools who are seeking GAC accreditation to still qualify. The expectation, of course, is that classes will be right-sized within a couple of years to meet GAC standards. We believe the only way such right-sizing can occur is if our schools are allowed to become part of city-based school systems.

    Charter clusters won’t do it, as far as we can tell, because (1) schools in charter clusters must give 5% of their state funding to DCSS and (2) schools in charter clusters will still be under the thumb of DCSS and (3) schools in charter clusters will be conversion charters who, unlike start-up charters, are subject to having their charter yanked by DCSS at any time for no reason at all — even if they are effectively meeting all requirements of their charter.

  11. Ned says:

    For the record, ICS already is accredited by GAC. Of course that’s a K-5 charter, not a ‘regular’ high school, but worth noting.

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