A most interesting discussion from the Feb 2, 2015 board meeting

In our post about last Monday’s board meeting, DSW moderators shared the ‘discussion’ we witnessed among Board members when Stan Jester proposed making a budget change. Apparently, upon reviewing the mid-year budget, the administration requested an increase in spending of $9 million, keeping classroom spending steady, while increasing non-classroom spending. Stan explained his motion as follows >>

I explained to the board and administration that Classrooms First for Georgia requires, at a minimum, 65% of a system’s total operating funds to be spent in the classroom. Dr. Bell said the current budget directed less than 65% to the classroom and the Mid-Year Adjustment directed 33% into the classroom.

I like the proposed 33%, but I would like the non direct classroom expenditures to be revenue neutral. That is, I would like to see non classroom dollar cuts for every non classroom dollar appropriated somewhere else.

TSA
At the board meeting, I moved that we keep all the direct classroom expenses proposed in the Mid-Year Adjustment and with the other 67% of the proposed $9 million make TSA contributions. I explained to the board and administration the history of TSA contributions.

Sutherland is handling the current TSA lawsuit and assured the board back in December that making TSA contributions going forward would not affect the lawsuit. However, at the board meeting, Nelson Mullins couldn’t confirm that. The board pushed back on making TSA contributions so I withdrew my motion.

Teacher Pay Raises
After withdrawing my TSA motion, I moved that we use the 67% of the proposed $9 million to give teachers a Mid-Year raise. I started to explain how many teachers had their daily rates reduced this year when a call for the vote was made.

First the chair asked for a vote on Joyce’s call to question (which requires a 2/3 vote to table the discussion). Then, before that vote could be taken, the chair asked Stan to repeat his motion that Morley had called to question. Stan recapped but then stated that he thought it had been called to question by Morley who ‘didn’t really want to hear about this’. And that’s when Joyce Morley went off. After her one minute, ten second dressing down of Stan, including mocking his name, the chair thanked Dr. Morley and the board voted on Stan’s motion. Stan was the sole ‘yes’ vote to support teacher raises. The rest of the Board voted to close the discussion, opting to take it up ‘sometime’ in the future in executive session.

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UPDATE >> To recap for those who can’t access the video >>

After making a new motion to use the increase in funding to give teachers a mid-year raise instead of spending it on non-classroom expenses, Joyce Morley called it into question. The Chair got confused as to what they were voting on, and asked Stan to repeat the request. He did but stated that he didn’t think Dr. Morley wanted to discuss it (referring to her motion to call it into question, which ends discussion).

Morley then proceeded to give Stan a personal dressing down in a public meeting >>

I think you’re totally out of line. And as someone new to the board, and if you’re for children, I would like to see you really be for children, stop lingering and languishing in stuff. Your personal stuff has nothing to do with it ok? And so we’re not here for this, and I don’t engage in this type of rhetoric. I’m going to be respectful and I’m professional. So whatever your game and your posturing is all about, and if you’ll notice me, I don’t ever call anyone’s name unless it’s something positive I have to say. You can’t read minds, and you sure don’t understand mine. So I need for you, and I’m going to expect that the chair would enter to this, or there will be legalities coming about. And we’ve had a board that has run quite well before, and it seems as if you have a personal, whatever the vendetta, or whatever your problem is, but I’m asking you to please respect me, and put it aside. Because we don’t ‘go there’. We’ve never gone like this before until you’ve come on this board. Now, I know what a board is, and I’ve been a professional for many, many years. And I’m going to be respected and not disrespected. You can have the Jester grin – whatever you want, and be one – but not here today.

And rather than calling her out of order, the board chair said, “thank you”.

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  1. To recap for those who can’t access the video >>

    After making a new motion to use the increase in funding to give teachers a mid-year raise instead of spending it on non-classroom expenses, Joyce Morley called it into question. The Chair got confused as to what they were voting on, and asked Stan to repeat the request. He did but stated that he didn’t think Dr. Morley wanted to discuss it (referring to her motion to call it into question, which ends discussion).

    Morley then proceeded to give Stan a personal dressing down in a public meeting >>

    I think you’re totally out of line. And as someone new to the board, and if you’re for children, I would like to see you really be for children, stop lingering and languishing in stuff. Your personal stuff has nothing to do with it ok? And so we’re not here for this, and I don’t engage in this type of rhetoric. I’m going to be respectful and I’m professional. So whatever your game and your posturing is all about, and if you’ll notice me, I don’t ever call anyone’s name unless it’s something positive I have to say. You can’t read minds, and you sure don’t understand mine. So I need for you, and I’m going to expect that the chair would enter to this, or there will be legalities coming about. And we’ve had a board that has run quite well before, and it seems as if you have a personal, whatever the vendetta, or whatever your problem is, but I’m asking you to please respect me, and put it aside. Because we don’t ‘go there’. We’ve never gone like this before until you’ve come on this board. Now, I know what a board is, and I’ve been a professional for many, many years. And I’m going to be respected and not disrespected. You can have the Jester grin – whatever you want, and be one – but not here today.

    And rather than calling her out of line, the board chair said, “thank you”.

  2. The chair really messed this up. First he asks for a second on Stan’s motion. Then Morley calls it into question (requiring a 2/3 vote to end the discussion). So the chair starts to ask for a second on the question, but then he asks Stan to restate his motion for some reason. So Stan restates, but adds that he thought Morley had called it into question saying “she doesn’t want to hear about that”. The chair is obviously very confused about Roberts Rules. He is having serious trouble running this meeting. Additionally, he should have called Morley out of order during her tirade.

    Earlier, Marshall did a very good job explaining why these things should at least be discussed. He tried to clarify this to Dr. Morley, but she still would not listen and just wanted to shut down the discussion. Of note, new board member Vicki Turner seconded Morley’s call to question Stan’s motion on a pay raise for teachers (which has no connection to the TSA or on-going lawsuit over the 2010 decision not to fund their TSAs as promised over 30 years ago in order to stop participation in Social Security).

    Also, we find it very interesting that Jim McMahan did not attend this day of meetings and therefore had no part of any discussion about teacher pay whatsoever. He is a part of the board that voted to make the ruling to hold all of these important meetings on just one day a month. In our opinion, if you vote to do that, you must commit to attending – even if by teleconference. If you can’t, your paycheck should be docked by 1/12 your annual pay.

  3. This video needs to be seen by every teacher in DCSS. I will be sharing it on social media and hope all your other readers do as well.

  4. Teachermom says:

    Teacher pay is a non-issue for this board. Which is why Morley so righteously swatted it away. Teachers are leaving and creating a big problem that is not going to go away.
    We continue to be an aside; that which shall not be mentioned. I wish I had a solution to suggest. I encourage the dialog to continue because we have got to speak up at the very least. Thank you Stan for putting it out there.

  5. Teacher Mom 2 says:

    My daughter is in her 8th year of teaching in DeKalb. This year, she make $3000 LESS than in her first year of teaching. I’m so saddened & disgusted!

  6. @ Teacher Mom 2, Your comment is very sad, but also very common among DeKalb teachers.

    Michael Thurmond, however, did not experience any kind of decrease >>

    THURMOND,MICHAEL – SUPERINTENDENT – $306,200.00 – $4,773.36 (travel) – DEKALB COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATI [2014]

    THURMOND,MICHAEL – SUPERINTENDENT – $121,551.73 – $520.00 (travel) – DEKALB COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATI [2013] odd – since he was hired in Feb, 2013.

    Ty Tagami
    DeKalb Superintendent Atkinson replaced by former Georgia labor commissioner
    8:14 p.m. Friday, Feb. 8, 2013 | Filed in: News
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    Cheryl Atkinson is out and former Georgia labor commissioner Michael Thurmond is in as leader of the DeKalb County School District, the third largest in the state.

    After first failing to muster a majority, the DeKalb school board tried a second time Friday and by a 5-4 vote approved a separation agreement that pays Atkinson $114,583 to leave. Then, they voted 7-2 to approve an employment agreement with Michael Thurmond, a former Georgia lawmaker who went on to become state labor commissioner.

    Thurmond will be paid the same $275,000 salary Atkinson got, and will receive three months’ pay if the DeKalb board replaces him before his year-long contract expires.

    He said he had no interest in holding the position long-term. Thurmond said the search for a permanent superintendent would begin immediately and he would leave as soon as one is found.

  7. DeKalb Inside Out says:

    I’ve never witnessed such disdain for teachers. Please let your board members know how you feel about the events of this board meeting. It’s one thing for the administration to do this, but it’s unconscionable to let our elected officials do this.

  8. Murphey says:

    i hope SACS is watching! Dr. Morley’s reference to “the Jester grin” is so totally out of line. I can’t believe that the Chair didn’t call her out on that. A BOE that rubber stamps everything the administration approves is not doing their job, and certainly isn’t representing those who elected them. I want a school system that looks for ways to help the teachers. If the administration won’t do it, then the BOE must step in and propose actions.

    Dr. Morley’s calling the question may be a valid tactic per Robert’s Rules, but it indicates hostility to even discussing new ideas rather than being “professional” and “for the children.” Wow.

  9. Sylvia Richardson says:

    Thank you for posting this information. Sad to have a board like this.

  10. DeKalbParent says:

    DSW, according to Jim McMahan’s Facebook page, he was in Washington DC that day on school board-related business: “I am representing DeKalb as our “Legislative Delegate” and going to Washington, DC today with the Georgia delegation to the National School Board Advocacy Institute.”

  11. Thanks for the update on Jim – we still think he could have participated in this meeting via phone conference. But we do give him credit for lobbying Washington.

    You are correct – this is his Facebook page entry >>

    I am representing DeKalb as our “Legislative Delegate” and going to Washington, DC today with the Georgia delegation to the National School Board Advocacy Institute. As President Obama presents his requested budget tomorrow we will advocate for increased student funding for IDEA (special needs), school nutrition and all Federal funding. I meet with our elected members of Congress and Senators Isakson and Perdue Monday and Tuesday. I return Tuesday evening and will deliver a report to the BOE at our March meeting.
    I hope to see everyone at the Superintendent Search public engagement meeting Wednesday night, February 4th, at Lakeside HS from 7pm – 8pm? (we will end when we are done listening to our community).
    Please come join us as this is the most important decision we will make in DeKalb for years! Let your voice be heard and it will.

    BTW – we got a report that there were only about 20 people from the community that attended the ‘community input’ meeting at Lakeside. To us, this shows how very tired we all are of this repeated exercise.

  12. @Murphey > We are assuming Joyce was confusing a “Jester” (Medieval entertainer, sometimes a fool) with a “Cheshire Cat” grin (fantastical animal from ‘Alice in Wonderland’)… a confusion of idioms… but the blow was low just the same. And the board chair should have called her out of order. He is far too passive for the job.

  13. We checked out Dr. Morley’s extensive resumes. She has several posted at various sites online. And they aren’t exactly congruent regarding her ‘nickname’.

    First, from the DCSD website >>

    Dr. Joyce Morley was born the youngest of fourteen children and is the mother of three daughters. She is the owner and CEO of Morley & Associates, Inc. and J.Morley Productions, Inc. She is affectionately known as the “Doctor of Hope”, & is a “Relationship Expert”. Dr. Morley holds a Bachelor of Science degree (B.S.) in Elementary Education/Psychology from SUNY Geneseo; a Master of Science degree (MS) in Counseling from SUNY Brockport, Specialist degrees (Ed.S.) in Counseling and Education Administration from SUNY Brockport, and a Doctorate degree (EdD) in Counseling, Family and Worklife (CFW) from the University of Rochester. She is recognized as a National Certified Counselor (NCC) and National Certified School Counselor (NCCSC) by the American Counseling Association (ACA), a Clinical Member, Diplomat, and Approved Supervisor by the American Association for Marriage and Family Therapy (AAMFT), a Certified Criminal Justice Specialist by the National Association of Forensic Counselors (NAFC), and a Board Certified Coach (BCC) by the Center for Credentialing & Education (CCE). Dr. Morley has served as an educator in the public school system and as a professor at the post secondary level for many years. She engages in motivational/keynote speaking, training, executive, relationship, life coaching, and mediation at the national, state and local levels, and she serves as a licensed psychotherapist in private practice. Dr. Joyce does consulting for businesses, organizations, and educational institutions, including The Center for Creative Leadership (CCL), Core Consultant for the Georgia Center for Nonprofit (GCN), The U.S. Dept. of Education, The Georgia Department of Juvenile Justice, Project GRAD Atlanta, the Chattanooga, Tennessee Project, and other organizations. She served as president of the Atlanta Branch of the American Association of University Women (AAUW) and the Jeannette Rankin Foundation in Athens, Georgia. Dr. Morley has served on several Boards of Directors, including Kate’s Club and the Porsche Foxx Community Fund (PFCF). She has been recognized by Who’s Who in Medicine and Healthcare, Who’s Who Among Human Service Professionals, the World’s Who’s Who Among Women and she is featured in the 2008 Edition of the African-American National Biography. She is featured on Storyofmylife.com. She is a member of the Partnership Council of the Georgia Partnership for Excellence in Education and was selected to serve as an International Delegate for the World Mental Health Organization. She led a mental health team to assist in the mental health needs of hurricane Katrina survivors, especially first responders and their families. Dr. Morley is an elected member and Secretary of the National Board for Certified Counselors Foundation Board of Trustees (NBCCF), and she was appointed to the DeKalb County, Georgia School Board by the Governor of the State of Georgia in 2013. She has appeared on several TV programs, including Lifetime TV and the OWN Network. Dr. Morley provides expert opinions for local & national newspapers and magazines, as well as on air appearances for national & international TV/radio programs. Dr. Morley currently co-hosts a monthly radio relationship program and she appears on radio/TV shows globally.

  14. And from her own website, Morley & Associates >>

    Dr. Joyce Morley was born the youngest of fourteen children and is the mother of three daughters. She is the owner and CEO of Morley & Associates, Inc. and is affectionately known as “Dr. Joyce, the Luv Doctor”. She holds a Bachelor of Science degree (B.S.) in Elementary Education/Psychology from SUNY Geneseo; a Master of Science degree (MS) in Counseling from SUNY Brockport, Specialist degrees (Ed.S.) in Counseling and Education Administration from SUNY Brockport, and a Doctorate degree (Ed.D.) in Counseling, Family and Worklife (CFW) from the University of Rochester. She is recognized as a National Certified Counselor and National Certified School Counselor by the American Counseling Association (ACA), a Clinical Member and Approved Supervisor by the American Association for Marriage and Family Therapy (AAMFT), and a Certified Criminal Justice Specialist by the National Association of Forensic Counselors (NAFC). Dr. Joyce has served as an educator in the public school system and as a professor at the post secondary level for many years. She engages in motivational/keynote speaking, training, executive, relationship, life coaching, and mediation at the national, state and local levels, and she serves as a licensed psychotherapist in private practice.

    Dr. Joyce does consulting for businesses, organizations, and educational institutions, including The Center for Creative Leadership (CCL), Core Consultant for the Georgia Center for Nonprofits (GCN), the U. S. Dept. of Education, the Georgia Department of Juvenile Justice, Project GRAD Atlanta, and other organizations. She served as president of the Atlanta Branch of the American Association of University Women (AAUW) and the Jeannette Rankin Foundation in Athens, Georgia. Dr. Joyce has served on several Boards of Directors, including Kate’s Club and the Porsche Foxx Community Fund (PFCF). She has been recognized by Who’s Who In Medicine and Healthcare, Who’s Who Among Human Service Professionals, and The World’s Who’s Who Among Women, and she is featured in the 2008 edition of the African-American National Biography. She was selected to serve as an International Delegate for the World Mental Health Organization, and led a mental health team to assist in the mental health needs of hurricane Katrina survivors, especially first responders and their families.

  15. And on Linked In >>

    Dr. Joyce served as a public school k-12 & post secondary educator. She is featured on TV One’s show, “Fatal Attraction,” and she was also featured twice on the OWN network show “Unfaithful.” Dr. Joyce was appointed by the Governor of the State of Georgia to the DeKalb County School Board. In May 2014, she won election to retain her Board position by 61% of the vote. Dr. Joyce engages in motivational/keynote speaking, training; executive/relationship/life coaching; individual//family/marriage/group psychotherapy; & business/organizational/educational consulting; is a licensed psychotherapist & Board Certified Coach; led a mental health team in New Orleans for 1st responders during Katrina.

    Dr. Joyce was a relationship expert on OWN TV show Unfaithful; Lifetime TV & Lifetime Women’s Channel docu-series, Love Handles: Couples in Crisis; national syndicated M&J TV show; & she erves as the “House Doctor” on the national syndicated Conn Jacksn TV show, as an expert on local/national/international radio & TV shows, including Jessie Jackson’s TV/radio shows. She served as an expert on WXIA TV’s 11–Alive news; & currently co-hosts a monthly relationship segment on Atlanta’s Kiss 104.1-FM,

    Dr. Joyce is a relationship expert, affectionately called “Dr. Joyce the Love Doctor;” radio/TV personality, author, poet, & columnist; served as an expert consultant to Ebony Magazine, Essence.com, Atlanta Woman Magazine, Black Enterprise Magazine, Rome News-Tribune, Atlanta Good Life Magazine, WEB MD, New York Daily News, & other national magazines/newspapers. She was Relationship Editor & columnist for Family Digest Magazine entitled, “Marriage Makeovers,” & “Relationship Treatment.”

    Specialties:Radio/TV personality, motivational/keynote speaking, relationship expert (fondly known as the “Love Doctor“}, business/ family/educational consulting, executive/relationship/life coaching; individual/marriage/family/group psychotherapy; training, workshop/seminar presentations; columnist, author; small business development

  16. DavidS says:

    Sounds like she needs to work on her relationship with other Board members.

  17. DeKalbParent says:

    Everyone I spoke with regarding the community input meeting felt like it was being held to just to “cross it off the list” and say that they listened to the people. No one believes anything meaningful would come of it anyway. Maybe I’m being too cynical, but I’ve seen this play already…

  18. Frustrated Dekalb Parent says:

    I was at the Lakeside meeting last night. The concerns discussed were the same as what we see here (low teacher pay and respect, bloated central office, etc.). Someone did bring up being amazed at still seeing a fighting board by watching 30 minutes of the last board meeting. The chair did not do his job at that meeting.

    Regarding the forum, the info discussed is supposed to be compiled and used by Proact in screening the candidates so if that actually happens, by the time the board is presented the smaller group of candidates, there could be a decent fit. I am still hopeful although the ultimate decision comes down to the board so they must be open-minded and work together. If we continue to stay vocal to the members, maybe they will listen.

  19. thedeal2 says:

    Morley is so much worse than Zepora Roberts or the other old, crazy one whose name escapes me. Morley is mean and overtly aggressive. Everything she says directed at Orson or Jester might as well be “I’ll slug you.” We have not made any progress on the board getting along. Being part of a county that would vote her in as their representative is part of why I support cityhood and the breaking up of this school system. I don’t need my children’s schools run by people like Joyce Morley, and I don’t need my children going to school anywhere near the children of people who think she is a competent board member. This has NOTHING to do with color and everything to do with judgement, professionalism, and responsibility.

  20. We just work here says:

    Wow….that Morley is quite the bully. She calls herself being a professional, then turns on Mr. Jester (and, in my opinion, commits a worse crime against him with her “Jester smile” comment than what she threatened HIM with “legalities” for–reading her mind?). What a joke. Of course these people don’t want to give the teachers a mid-year raise. We’re just the ones in the trenches doing the real work. Garbage in, garbage out.

  21. formerdekalbteacher says:

    I just left Dekalb and teaching in Dekalb because of poor PAY. At least Stan is drawing attention to that.

  22. dsw2contributor says:

    She used to use the last name “Morley-Ball”, such as in this 2010 article posted on eDrugstore.MD:
    https://www.edrugstore.md/blog/expert-interviews/dr-joyce-morley-ball

    Is the “Love Doctor” divorced?

  23. nannerpuddin39 says:

    Bet she is divorced….who could live or love an idiot like this? You know all that perhaps BS on the resume could be of her own making! She speaks of respect and professionalism and yet possess non of either! What a joke…..embarrassment to represent a board of education!!

  24. Word Wall says:

    A shocking angry outburst of unprofessional, personal bullying! Why? A board member quietly moved to give teachers a raise! No wonder criminal prosecutors, SACS and the Governor are constantly needed to sort out the Dekalb schools “leadership” !

  25. concerned citizen says:

    Stan Jester will not be silenced by the Love Doctor. She blew a gasket and made herself an object of contempt. Stan, thank you for trying and with your help may the board come to understand that the teachers and students are the first priority of the system. Our teachers must be paid. That was a horrible, hideous display of emotionalism and about what? What has Stan done to make her so off the charts? This is not about Stan Jester. It’s about a corrupt system that continues to rehire itself. Anyone who dares to question the system is going to be attacked. We have seen Stan twice attacked now. Is there any doubt that it’s coming from an insider? Such a violent reaction surely seems suspicious.

  26. dsw2contributor says:

    I can’t put my finger on it (yet), but something is not quite right with Dr. Joyce Morley’s/Joyce A. Ball/Dr. Joyce Morley-Ball’s background.

    Start with her resume, which is publicly posted on her website. It says that she had been an educator in the City of Rochester (NY) School system, in these positions:

    1) Elementary Teacher (Schools #25 and #36)
    2) Teacher on Assignment (WEB Dubois Academy)
    3) Guidance Counselor (Madison High School, Jefferson Jr.-Sr. High School, Douglass Jr. High School, The Alternative Education Center)
    4) Curriculum Specialist (Franklin High School, Wilson Magnet High School)
    5) Dean of Students (Franklin High School)

    Dr. Joyce Morley does not list any dates for the positions she held in the City of Rochester school system. However, the NY State Office of Teaching Initatives (http://eservices.nysed.gov/teach/certhelp/CpPersonSearchExternal.jsp) says that Joyce A. Ball of Lithonia, Georgia holds/held these NY State teaching certificates:

    1) Nursery, Kindergarten & Grades 1-6 Permanent Certificate – 09/01/1977
    2) School Counselor Permanent Certificate – 09/01/1984
    3) School Administrator/Supervisor Permanent Certificate – 02/01/1991

    The date of each certificate is the “Issue/Effective Date”…. so I conclude that Dr. Joyce Morley’s/Joyce A. Ball/Dr. Joyce Morley-Ball had been an Elementary Teacher from 1977 to 1984, then a Guidance Counselor from 1984 or 1985 to 1991, then an administrator (Curriculum Specialist and/or Dean of Students) from 1991 or 1992 on to the mid-90s.

    While working for the City of Rochester schools, she earned B.S, M.S. and Ed.S. degrees in Counseling Education and Education Administration from Brockport (a Rochester suburb) and an Education Doctorate (Ed.D.) from the University of Rochester.

    Then, in the mid-1990s, she just stopped being an educator. About the same time, she seems to have relocated from NY State to Georgia. This strikes me as very strange: why leave the NY State Retirement System after you had already put 15 to 20 years into it?

    I did find an explanation she posted on the Freelancers Union website. There she wrote: “I decided to go freelance after sustaining what was considered to be a permanent neck and back injury while serving as a Dean of Students in an inner city high school. ”
    Source: https://www.freelancersunion.org/blog/2007/11/14/member-of-the-week-dr-joyce-morley-ball-psychotherapist-more/

    I can understand that a neck and back injury could prevent her from teaching. However, why would that type of injury prevent her from continuing to work as a guidance counselor? Why would the injury cause her to leave NY State?

  27. It appeared to me that one of the attorneys had advised the entire board that they should not be discussing the subject in a public meeting while there was pending litigation. Jester stated that he thought they were advised that they would be okay to discuss the issue as long as it was from the present day and forward, just not about the past events that are under litigation. Orson explained how they received conflicting advice on that subject, but he thought it was okay to just discuss it since it is a matter of budgeting which is the board’s responsibility. Morley said that she thought they should wait until an executive session due to the legalities of the situation. So, they started to move on but then Stan raised the same subject in a different manner and, imo, it appeared that Morley was cutting him off because she felt strongly that they should follow the atty’s advice and stop the discussion so that people like those commenting on this blog would not turn around and start instantly with the calling names and making comparisons to former board members. That’s not really necessary.

    Irony dully noted.

  28. Dekalb Inside Out says:

    GETtheCELLoutATL
    The first video is about TSA. The second video is about teacher raises. After the second motion was raised, Morley cut him off as he was going into his reasoning. It’s easier to see when you watch the whole thing on PDS 24 or Stan’s website.

  29. Teachers Matter says:

    Oh, Lord, I am so tired of this! Someone please remind me why I continue to go to school every day and give my all when those in charge don’t give a damn about me.

  30. Exactly Inside Out. Perhaps part of the issue here is that people are just unable to follow what’s going on. You do have to pay attention. Cell – Stan made a motion to make TSA contributions (are you aware of the history on this subject? If not, please do some research – just put TSA in the search bar of the blog, we have many posts about this)… The law firm representing the school district in the case (Sutherland) told the board that if they were to reinstate TSA contributions it would have no effect on the case. The board has now secured new staff attorneys – Nelson-Mullins, (they are not representing the school district in the teacher lawsuit, they are simply everyday attorneys) and that attorney (new to DCSD) stated that she was not comfortable with any discussion about TSAs. So sad for teachers. But hey – what does she care? Her paycheck is $$$$$.

    So, then yes, Stan later proposed a simple mid-year raise for teachers – no attachment to their retirement annuity- TSA – Tax Sheltered Annity (which a matching contribution was promised in lieu of Social Security, given for 25+ years and then taken abruptly away in 2010 against board policy, which required a 2-year notice.) Totally different motion. No legal issue whatsoever. Not the same thing at all.

  31. dsw2contributor says:

    So the gate to DeKalb’s bus yard is not locked and keys are left inside the unlocked buses…. what could possibly go wrong?

    While the DCSS Police were busy guarding the monthly DCSS Board meeting, vandals were busy playing “bumper buses” at the bus yard. The report on WSB-TV:
    http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/10-buses-damaged-after-vandals-go-joyride/nj3jn/

    The article also says that 1 bus seems to have been stolen…. and just three weeks earlier, vandals destroyed another eight buses.

  32. dsw2contributor says:

    To give credit to who it is due, it was the Dunwoody Patch who reported that the DCSS buses were damaged on Monday night:
    http://patch.com/georgia/dunwoody/vandals-use-buses-bumper-cars-0

  33. dsw2contributor says:

    The WSB-TV report can be watched here:
    http://www.wsbtv.com/videos/news/dekalb-county-school-buses-damaged-in-vandalism/vDDdjH/

    The clip shows just how badly some of the buses were damaged.

  34. Sarah says:

    I am so so disappointed my rep Jim McMahan was not present. I couldn’t care less about him being a delegate to Washington. Where is his voice going to make more of a difference -here or DC? So disappointing!

    And as for Dr. Morley, how embarrassing! Of course, her rant was so nonsensical that the effect was muted, but still…ugh.

    I am so thankful we have found a local and affordable private school. My heart breaks for those who care and have no other option besides this mess.

  35. howdy1942 says:

    I’ll be glad to see the teachers’ lawsuit come up in court. Does anyone know what is taking so long? Maybe if we could get that Sneiderman lady out of the courtroom, we could get the Teachers vs. the Dekalb County School Board tried. It’s about time. I continue to believe that the Dekalb County School System made some commitment to the teachers to make its contributions to the TRA or the teachers would never have left Social Security. If that commitment was not made in writing, then it most certainly was made by one or more school board members who would have had to voted to take the action. My understanding is that teachers cannot just up and decide to withdraw from Social Security – the Social Security Administration would have to be told that the school system offered a qualified and acceptable alternative. I think that the Dekalb County School System is on some very thin ice and, if the DCSS loses this one, it is going to be very costly.

    I went to both the Dunwoody and the Lakeside PROACT meetings. There were some very concerned people at each who made some very good comments and thoughts regarding the superintendent search. I am convinced that the school board absolutely must get this search right and select a candidate that can unite Dekalb County. One lady at Lakeside was very clear last night – anyone from inside the Dekalb County School System or connected with it need not apply. In talking with several others who attended the Dunwoody meeting, there were many concerns voiced that all of this search process will amount to very little and that the board really wants to promote from within. That would be about the worst mistake the school board could make. If the school board makes a poor choice this time around, then I am convinced that Dunwoody and Brookhaven will find ways to exit from the DCSS. Even the small chance that Druid Hills could remain in the DCSS would evaporate. Lose those tax bases and the school board will really have a budgeting challenge to face.

    I agree with theDeal2 – it is very difficult to understand how any district could vote her into office. Her conduct is inexcusable. And Dr. Melvin Johnson doesn’t seem up to his job as chair. I was present when the NAACP representative stood up and stated in his public comments that a “black person should be the next superintendent”. That is clearly racial and is, therefore, out of order. He needs to “grow some” and learn to deal with Morley.

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  37. jbgotcha says:

    A couple of thoughts:
    1) Although I believe Dr. Morley was out of line, her comments were neither bullying or violent. We need to stop using such incendiary language. I understand the hyper vigilance from commenters due to the mounting frustrations in DeKalb, but descriptions like “bully” and “violent” sound like euphemisms for “angry black woman”.
    2) The board chair needs to take a firm leadership role. Passive leadership will get us nowhere.

  38. Dekalb Inside Out says:

    Bully and violent are quite accurate descriptions. Dr. Morley has intimidated this board with strong arm tactics for the last two years. This outburst mocking Mr. Jester’s name and something about the way he looks and threatening legal recourse just to shut down the conversation on teacher raises … it’s downright appalling.

  39. Joyce Morley’s dressing down and mocking of Stan Jester was out of order. The chair should have called it so.

  40. dsw2contributor says:

    ^ I disagree, DSW.

    Think of the idiom “Give someone enough rope and she’ll hang himself.” Personally, I do not want the Chair to be taking the rope away…

    Stan is a big boy. He can handle it.

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